So many unattributed cancels…

The first cancel shown below shows up every now and then. I’ve seen 3-5 examples offered over the years.

The second one below showed up on eBay a few weeks ago, one I have not seen before. From a distance, the cancel almost looks like an amorphous blob or smudge, which is why presumably I was the only bidder. It’s definitely a crown though, but different from the first one.

Not sure if it is the same company or not.